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CIA admits that remote viewing isn't bull

A statement was posted to the CIA website confirming that they believe it to be a real phenomenon. It's not obvious to me where this might go – could someone who's inclined include it? — TARDIS builder^💬 | 07:57, 28 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The consensus view is that CIA got no actionable intelligence through remote viewing, so whether they believe it to be genuine or not is irrelevant. Verbatim quote: but that the phenomenon was too unreliable, inconsistent, and sporadic to be useful for intelligence purposes. So, yeah, taking the report at face value, they concluded that it works, but it works so badly as to be practically useless. As in general with psi phenomena: they provide some significant correlations, but they are useless in the real world. tgeorgescu (talk) 08:23, 28 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Regardless, replacing "significant" with "real" is a rookie mistake because correlation is not causation. And it would be very weird if all the CIA had a single opinion about it. There are bound to be people working there who are very smart and knowledgeable and others who are not. --Hob Gadling (talk) 08:31, 28 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

If the CIA thought it was bull, they wouldn’t have continued the program for so long as well as army intelligence. Not to mention the Chinese and Russian programs. 2605:59C8:99C:8910:2140:49BA:B5A9:137B (talk) 20:11, 1 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

That is your opinion and not relevant to this article. Programs take a while to be funded and also to be dismantled, "for so long" is relative. It was also only pennies of their budget so they probably didn't really think much of it. The Chinese and Russians were doing what the USA was doing, and we don't completely know what they were doing. So your argument is not relevant. The rules of FRINGE apply here. Sgerbic (talk) 20:19, 1 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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The redirect Rvvv has been listed at redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the redirect guidelines. Readers of this page are welcome to comment on this redirect at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 February 17 § Rvvv until a consensus is reached. CycloneYoris ^talk! 10:11, 17 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

CIA

Stargate Project of CIA must be added. You can go to this website and type "remote view". Thousands of documents will be revealed. Looks like CIA involved "pseudo-scientific" operations. Psycics has been used for operations by CIA. Not adding this information on this page and calling remote view "pseudo-science" is highly biased and suspicious move.

https://www.cia.gov/readingroom/home 159.146.121.8 (talk) 21:50, 27 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

You need to be able to read and comprehend the existing article. What you want to add to the article is already in the article. - LuckyLouie (talk) 22:13, 27 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Remote viewing has been in operative use for decades

I find the description and discussion about remote viewing quite bizarre. After it was made available to the public in the mid 1990:s a number of the former military remote viewers started to provide courses. The community of viewers has continued growing and developing. There is a generally accepted scientific protocoll containing key points making sure there is no cheating. Many remote viewing projects have been made available to the public giving the oppotunity for anyone to get an insight by going through the raw data. An obvious objection would be that we can't tell if the viewer knew about tha target before doing the viewing. However, for the last decade or so projects looking into the future have been available to the public. E g Farsight Institute and Cryptoviewing have provided mothly predictions a month in advance. This means that the public including myself have the opportunity to first take part of the results of the remote viewing session and then during the month or so after the feedback will play out. Over and over the mentioned groups have produced stunning results. Remote viewers have described unique events of which there was totally impossible to have prior knowledge. The detail och specificness has many time been overwhelming and when the event played out there could be no doubt about that this was what the Remote viewer had described. 155.4.33.198 (talk) 14:26, 21 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@155.4.33.198 Remote viewing is overwhelmingly considered WP:FRINGE pseudoscience. To give more weight to its scientific viability in this article would require significant amounts of reliable sources from a variety of reputable scientific venues. StereoFolic (talk) 15:32, 21 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

You'll need some robust sources for that. Guy (help! - typo?) 21:30, 21 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]